‘I think the reason I get on well with porn people is that I’m not dissimilar to them. They’re creative people and they’re on the outside, and I’ve always felt like an outsider’

From psychology-driven books, TV documentaries and screenplays to his recent podcasts investigating the adult film industry, Jon Ronson’s career is nothing if not varied. But one common thread is his holding a light up to people on the fringes.

Jon Ronson: ‘Everyone sees me as this owl-like eunuch from Game of Thrones’ Pic: Getty

There’s something I feel compelled to admit to Jon Ronson before we begin this interview properly. Although I’ve encountered Ronson many times over the years, interviewing him for books including The Psychopath Test, So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed and The Men Who Stare at Goats, I haven’t been able to square off my image of the author with his latest incarnation as the host of The Last Days of August and The Butterfly ...